(Non) Humanism & Animism my newest performative installation was premiered by ensemble But What About this last weekend, at Gaudeamus 2018. Here a talk about the creative process moderated by Rens Machielse, former director HKU Muziek & Technologie. Interviewees are me & Marte Boneschansker (who also was featerud at Gaudeamus with her project BLOOS). – Extra guests: But What About (Wilco Oomkes), Matthías Ingiberg Sigurðsson (composer for BLOOS)